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Post by Étienne on Apr 20, 2015 12:22:00 GMT -5
This set is from Military Illustrated, Past & Present, No. 27, August 1990, pages 17-25. Written by Denis Lassus. Part 1/3 |
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Post by Étienne on Apr 20, 2015 12:23:42 GMT -5
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Post by Étienne on Apr 20, 2015 12:25:38 GMT -5
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Post by Étienne on Apr 20, 2015 12:29:03 GMT -5
And, that's the last of the DBP series by Denis Lassus! These are the articles that got myself and some friends into FIW stuff many years ago (when the articles first were published, back when I was in my late teens). I think there are a few minor errors in them, but they are quite amazingly cool anyway.
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Post by lew on Apr 20, 2015 13:43:59 GMT -5
I've never seen the "zig-zag" sole pattern on the Pataugas in post no. 1, picture 3.
I hate flipping through Paras Indochine or seeing pictures like post no. 2, picture 3 with all the tools laid out like that. I already have a crap ton of axes, sledges, shovels, and other hand tools. I keep thinking a 17e RGP impression would be sweet. I know I've seen all those tools at one time or another for sale.
A note on the jump boots: The caption states that the color- black or brown- depended on the grease used. That's true, but, at the time, all the boots would have been recognizably brown. The blackish coloration is a result of dissimilar aging. I don't know of any unit in Indo that blackened their boots as a matter of course. Algeria's another story.
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Post by craigtx on Apr 20, 2015 20:14:46 GMT -5
Excellent info! Thanks for goin' to the trouble of scannin' it all in!
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Post by Étienne on Apr 21, 2015 16:29:03 GMT -5
I've seen the "zig zag" pataugas soles before, but only in photos...I always thought they were later/Algeria era, but maybe I'm wrong? Attached are some photos I've found online with that pattern of sole, but I don't know the exact time period they're from. But, most seem to be Wissart brand. |
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Post by lew on Apr 21, 2015 18:20:05 GMT -5
The second boots have buckles, so they are post-~1970, FYI. Still, good illustration. The pictures of Wissart Pataugas I have show a tread pattern similar to the Palladiums with which we are familiar. Interesting that they had two tread patterns.
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Post by keane on Dec 20, 2015 13:19:08 GMT -5
Has anyone sourced the small mesh helmet net? It looks like the late type Israeli, But that has suddenly become hard to find as well.
Thanks
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Post by craigtx on Dec 20, 2015 17:50:45 GMT -5
The small mesh is typically late war US netting. It still appears periodically.
But I know of no one reproducing it.
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Post by toussant on Dec 20, 2015 22:05:51 GMT -5
Check with the vendor, MAN THE LINE, they carry many versions of helmet camo nets including the late war stuff for +/- $18. Good folks to deal with and fast delivery...
Salut!
---Toussant
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Post by kwcantwell on Dec 20, 2015 23:51:26 GMT -5
If you find their eBay store the price is just a little better than the web site
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Post by keane on Dec 21, 2015 15:44:10 GMT -5
Thanks to all for your input.
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Post by dienbienphu on Dec 18, 2016 18:01:07 GMT -5
Hey Everybody
I just had a quick question about a 1st or 2nd BEP impression. I was wondering if it be accurate or appropriate to use american suspenders such as the M1936's or M1944's instead of the common French made TAP 50 suspenders. If so what type of American suspenders would be acceptable, I'll be pairing them with an American M1936 pistol belt, M1910 canteen and cover, and M1 Carbine pouches.
Thanks for your help,
Morgan
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Post by lew on Dec 19, 2016 12:33:50 GMT -5
M36 braces were far more common from what I've been able to gather, both in French service and other nations that received US surplus (ex. Portuguese airborne).
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dienbienphu
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Post by dienbienphu on Dec 19, 2016 15:43:13 GMT -5
Ok great! Thanks for your help!
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Post by lew on Dec 19, 2016 18:06:23 GMT -5
Aucun probleme, mon ami!
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Post by fireman on Feb 13, 2017 20:24:23 GMT -5
There are several photos at Ecpad of the M44 suspenders being worn at Dien Bien Phu.
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Post by john on Oct 21, 2018 18:57:24 GMT -5
There are several photos at Ecpad of the M44 suspenders being worn at Dien Bien Phu. Do you mean the US M44 suspenders were also used at DBP? Thank you |
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