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Post by hoover on Nov 10, 2013 10:17:32 GMT -5
Hi!
I have just got a mint French mle 1950 mountain parka, dated 1952.
There are pics of them used in Algeria, but did they were used in Indochina, too? I haven´t seen any pics yet.
Bye Frank
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sparkz
Nouvelle arrivée
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Post by sparkz on Nov 10, 2013 11:04:22 GMT -5
Hi, Same as never seen a picture, but I'd probably say they didn't due to climate etc. US Army M43 jackets were worn in Indochina in the cooler times of the year. Cheers Russ
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Post by lew on Nov 10, 2013 11:40:37 GMT -5
I've only seen them distributed to Metropolitan units- primarily with the Chasseurs Alpins, 13e RDP, 1e RHP, but also some scattered distribution in 1e RCP.
2e and 27e BCAs (Bataillon de Chasseurs Alpins) did see service in Indochina, but their times in-country appear to be before the parka's issue.
I'm going with "no" on this one.
If ya don't mind, how much did you par for it? I've been looking to add one, but they don't come up often.
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Post by hoover on Nov 11, 2013 14:24:53 GMT -5
I will stay with it, it´s the first one in mint condition I ever saw. I paid only 30 € for it in large size.
So I will put into my Algeria-box ;D
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Post by lew on Nov 11, 2013 19:48:39 GMT -5
Hi, Same as never seen a picture, but I'd probably say they didn't due to climate etc. US Army M43 jackets were worn in Indochina in the cooler times of the year. Cheers Russ It's not uncommon to see temps near or under freezing in the mountains there. Hoover, if you wouldn't mind, I'd appreciate some detailed pictures of the parka.
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Post by hoover on Nov 13, 2013 4:42:47 GMT -5
Okay, I will take some oics this afternoon after work.
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Post by hoover on Nov 16, 2013 8:15:49 GMT -5
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Post by lew on Nov 16, 2013 9:39:27 GMT -5
Yay!
Is that insulated at all?
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Post by hoover on Nov 16, 2013 11:49:16 GMT -5
No, only one layer of thick cloth. No interal insulation.
In the book "Paras Francais en Algerie" page 24 is a similar piece pictured.
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Post by lew on Nov 17, 2013 11:58:58 GMT -5
That's why I thought. Looks like the same heavyweight twill used on the M47 TTA uniform, which is actually quite warm. Add a sweater or quilted vest underneath and you're all set for some pretty cold weather.
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Post by hoover on Nov 17, 2013 13:18:08 GMT -5
Yes, with a sweater underneath it would be quite warm.
My smock is not impregnated (maybe already washed out?) so I don´t know about rain or snow in the mountains.
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Post by lew on Nov 19, 2013 8:11:47 GMT -5
I do not believe that they were treated with any water-resistant coating. That cotton twill holds up quite well to snow and offers some resistance to rain, at least for a short time. Rubberized US-style ponchos were in limited (very) use in Algeria, although most used the triangle Zeltbahn-type tent/poncho. I do not know if that would be used in conjunction with the parka if the weather got really messy.
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Post by hoover on Nov 20, 2013 10:12:54 GMT -5
I don´t have the quilted jacket yet, but maybe it would fit underneath?
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Post by lew on Nov 21, 2013 7:57:41 GMT -5
In all the period pics I've seen, the parka seems to be pretty roomy. I would see no reason why the veste matelasée would not be able to be worn under it. Finding a veste in good condition and the right size can be difficult, though. If I tried to put mine on, the seems would blow out, but then my chest and shoulders are a bit larger than most. I bought a djellaba and called it good. Nice and toasty, and I like wool. ;D
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Post by craigtx on Jun 25, 2014 10:17:46 GMT -5
Where did you get your djellba from?
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Post by lew on Jun 25, 2014 17:18:30 GMT -5
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Post by craigtx on Oct 8, 2014 8:04:50 GMT -5
Thanks Steve!
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Post by lew on Oct 9, 2014 7:28:50 GMT -5
No problem. It's really comfy, but go up a size so it can be worn over other clothing. Basically, any earth-colored or black djellaba will work.
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