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Post by Legion Etrangere on Jun 30, 2009 23:56:30 GMT -5
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Post by lt13demi on Jul 1, 2009 10:40:01 GMT -5
In my opinion,the FM 24/29 was probably the best weapon in the French arsenal. Certainly saw a long and valiant service.
As for the 7.5 x 54 caliber. I actually like the cartridge. It's not a bad round. For the mid-1920's it was ahead of it's time. Because of it's shorter case length, it was very well suited to semi and full auto weapons. (one of the main reasons for the development of the 7.62 NATO round)..... Naturally there are newer cartridges that are perhaps ballistically superior. But overall, I enjoy carrying my MAS 36 to the woods when I have a need to carry live ammo about.
Renault
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Post by oggy on Jul 2, 2009 2:28:47 GMT -5
TBH it was a lot better than it's replacement, the AAT - it operated just at the edge of breakdown, split Cartridge Cases were extremely common.
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6ebcp
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Post by 6ebcp on Dec 8, 2009 21:32:02 GMT -5
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Post by 6ebcp on Dec 8, 2009 21:50:55 GMT -5
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Post by cookie on Feb 8, 2010 15:09:05 GMT -5
The latest edition to my ever growing collection...   Its a venerable old girl. It has several small pieces missing or broken and the wood is somewhat dry and dirty. I'm hoping it will clean up pretty well given some attention. I bought it off a guy at Stoneleigh last weekend. He had half a dozen of them and at least twenty MAT-49's - imported from Zimbabwe of all places. You search high and low for years without coming across one for sale, then a whole truckload turn up at bargain prices. £495 each. I just need someone to carry the damned thing... |
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Post by Legion Etrangere on Feb 8, 2010 16:06:50 GMT -5
Cookie, I can only look on at the FM 24/29 and be .... bloody envious!  Wow, I've searched the net, the pages of SHOTGUN NEWS and other militaria magazines. Nada. There are bits and peices of 24/29 parts but no full weapon. Like the airborne boots....they look like they are in pretty good condition. Mick
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Post by 6ebcp on Feb 9, 2010 15:10:05 GMT -5
Yeap I saw these at Stoners, but funds are too low at the moment to be able to afford one  Did you get the name of the seller at all Cookie? I noticed the MAT49's were the early ones too! Danny - Broke |
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Post by cookie on Feb 9, 2010 15:12:30 GMT -5
The Worthing Gun Company.
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Post by 6ebcp on Feb 9, 2010 20:48:23 GMT -5
Cheers matey, shall drop them a line in the morning  The one I was offered was priced at nearly £600!  Danny |
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Post by 1rcp on Feb 7, 2012 23:59:16 GMT -5
as I am lucky to live in the USA...I own a dewat FM 24/29, and 80% of the accessories. Still looking for the AA sights set from 1940 though...
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Post by 1rcp on Feb 8, 2012 0:00:06 GMT -5
BTW... THATS ME SHOOTING THE FM IN THE YOUTUBE VIDEO!!!!!!
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Post by lew on Oct 2, 2013 7:15:43 GMT -5
TBH it was a lot better than it's replacement, the AAT - it operated just at the edge of breakdown, split Cartridge Cases were extremely common. The split cartridge cases were a result of the weapon's lever-delayed blowback action. In military use, the cases aren't going to be reloaded, so who cares? I've heard more than a handful of reports from those who used it saying that the AA-52 was light (for an LMG), rock solid reliable, compact, and accurate (again, for an LMG). It was a fine machinegun that saw a long service life. as I am lucky to live in the USA...I own a dewat FM 24/29, and 80% of the accessories. Still looking for the AA sights set from 1940 though... Anyone know how many FM-24/29's- dewat or otherwise- are in the US? I'd gladly steal someone else's kidneys to pay for one.  |
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Post by Étienne on Jun 17, 2014 13:50:55 GMT -5
Found a few 24/29's for sale on delcampe.net and www.nolasco.fr . I'm presuming that when they're "neutralisé" it means they've been "demil'd" (if that's the correct term)? And if so, I wonder what would it take to get it to fire [on semi, of course!] again? |
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Post by lew on Jun 18, 2014 7:26:43 GMT -5
Found a few 24/29's for sale on delcampe.net and www.nolasco.fr . I'm presuming that when they're "neutralisé" it means they've been "demil'd" (if that's the correct term)? And if so, I wonder what would it take to get it to fire [on semi, of course!] again? You are correct. Demil-ed. That would be a lot of work to make a semi-auto. First, the FAT agents (ATF), in their infinite wisdom, have declared the following: "once a machinegun, always a machinegun." That means that the receiver would have to be destroyed prior to it ever reaching your hands. That assumes an importer can even bring one in. Destruction, at a minimum, involves three torch cuts through the receiver at specified locations, removing at least a 1/4"- I think that's the right number- of material, thus leaving three separate pieces. As in the case of semi-auto Bren builds (my FFL does a lot of these), the receiver can be affixed to a jig, material added where needed to keep the original dimensions, and rewelded. The Bren has a separate bolt and piston, and converting it to semi-auto is not much of an issue. The problem with the FM-24/29 is that the firing pin is fixed to the piston, atop which rides the bolt. There is no hammer, and the trigger and sear simply release the piston/bolt.firing pin assembly to allow it to chamber a round and fire. Turning it into a semi-auto that is incapable of automatic fire would require a complete redesign of the guts- new bolt, hammer, trigger, sear, piston interface, et al. Might just be cheaper to get a pre-1986 transferable for $20-$30,000. |
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Post by Étienne on Jun 23, 2014 11:31:03 GMT -5
Thanks! I shoulda known...I've known people who tried to make previously full-auto firearms into semi-auto firearms...it only works with certain ones. And with the FM 24/29's having two triggers, it would throw a whole 'nuther wrench into the works I suppose. I thought perhaps that since it was considered demil-ed already, perhaps it would still be considered as such for import. Oh well!
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Post by lew on Jun 23, 2014 14:17:59 GMT -5
The FAT agents, being the dumbfounded morons that they are, have their own set of rules definitely apart from what the Euros think about the topic.
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Cheap as chips too!
Wow, I've searched the net, the pages of SHOTGUN NEWS and other militaria magazines. Nada. There are bits and peices of 24/29 parts but no full weapon. Like the airborne boots....they look like they are in pretty good condition.
