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Post by rullow on Oct 10, 2018 3:06:35 GMT -5
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savoy6
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Post by savoy6 on Oct 10, 2018 8:43:42 GMT -5
great job....seems that droop had an issue with the bolt being really hard to get into that forward cant that the mas36 has....here in the states they sell the metal replacement ones that would be easily heated and turned..
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Post by rullow on Oct 10, 2018 15:31:01 GMT -5
well the charging handle shouldnt be a problem... i ve got steel handle already ready and I wait for the attachment part cut out by laser.... and I ll weld those two together...so it will be one solid steel piece to replace the original one... well its grat job of droopaile - he really kicked me on  |
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savoy6
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Post by savoy6 on Oct 10, 2018 20:52:48 GMT -5
so what is next?.....MAS49 on the version 7 gearbox?...or a kit to make the ZB26 LMG into a FM24/29?..lol
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Post by rullow on Oct 11, 2018 1:59:16 GMT -5
with MAS49 I am already half way there  but I made the design few years ago and since then I acquired some original parts - so now I have the reference parts.... so I ll have to redesign the whole thing.... v7 gearbox is already ready I d like to make me MAS49 and 49/56 as well... however the biggest obstacle is how to connect the stock and the receiver - since there is a motor in the way.... below some pictures of my first attempt.... - the receiver is 3d print again... the mag is from SR25 and the rest is scratch build.....          FM24/29 is next in the row... I have the wooden furniture ready, bipod as well and two years ago I made the measures on the real thing.... and somewhere in the process I have to finish PA35A, PA35S and MAC50 airsoft conversion.... later on I have in mind MAS48 and airsoft MAS38... and thats enough I guess |
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Post by savoy6 on Oct 11, 2018 8:20:16 GMT -5
enough?...lol..that's pretty much the whole line up....great work man..
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Post by rullow on Nov 5, 2018 14:17:26 GMT -5
well there is never enough for me it must be some sort of mental disorder however - I ve collected all parts for steel charging handle - I believe that the idea is clear from the pictures.... also I ve been able to collect some airsoft shotgun shells on local airsoft flea market for 0,20 USD each so I can experiment with the idea of using those for receiver inside feed....     plus I ve passed some 3D files of the improved model to 3D print so we will what this will do.... |
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Post by can on Mar 25, 2019 14:52:50 GMT -5
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Post by can on Mar 25, 2019 14:59:53 GMT -5
For some reason I can't add to the attachments,but I'm a computer imbecile anyway. I shot a vintage match over the weekend. It's not airsoft but kinda related ,MAS 36 anyway and it seemed silly to start a whole new thread. I hope the OP doesn't mind.. There were a bunch of M1's AND 1903's. Even a trapdoor Springfield,but I was the only French gun. I usually shoot my 49/56 but this has been a safe queen too long. She did just fine. Took a while to get it zeroed for 200 yards but for a stock military rifle it was OK.
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Post by craigtx on Mar 25, 2019 21:06:25 GMT -5
Looks like fun! How many French rifle jokes didja get?
Craig
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Post by can on Mar 26, 2019 4:37:49 GMT -5
I have four. Two 49/56 and two 36's. One of the 49/56's is 7.62 and it's not accurate enough for competition. I think it needs an adjustable gas valve.
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Post by craigtx on Mar 26, 2019 7:26:54 GMT -5
Sorry, I stated it badly. Didja get a lot of French rifle jokes?
A respectable collection. I have a MAS 36, a MAS 36/53, and 2 MAS 49/56 (1 in 7.62), and a MAS 49.
Craig
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Post by can on Mar 26, 2019 9:50:27 GMT -5
They know better than to try any French rifle jokes on me. The last time someone tried that they got got my speech about how COL. Langlais after the war was trying to get Jump Wings issued to the men who jumped into DBP without being Parachute quantified. That usually is enough to send them away.
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Post by can on Mar 26, 2019 9:53:17 GMT -5
Sorry, I stated it badly. Didja get a lot of French rifle jokes? A respectable collection. I have a MAS 36, a MAS 36/53, and 2 MAS 49/56 (1 in 7.62), and a MAS 49. Craig That 49 is a rare one for sure. My 7.62 is not nearly as accurate as my 7,5 one. It will sometimes nt eject properly too. I kinda leave him in the safe mostly. |
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Post by lew on Mar 26, 2019 12:14:46 GMT -5
Can, what kind of groups were you getting with the -36?
I haven't shot my -36's past 200m, but I've busted rocks at 700m with the Mle. 49 and the APX scope. All of the post-war French rifles are superb shooters.
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Post by can on Mar 26, 2019 12:40:30 GMT -5
Didn't measure them but probably 3-3.5 MOA rifle. I have to get another sight leaf. It shoots to the right. It is certainly a good battle rifle for sure.
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Post by lew on Mar 27, 2019 12:15:25 GMT -5
I haven't put my -36's on paper in any meaningful manner (yet), but that seems about right. I'll shoot them off bags next time I go out and see what I get.
Of all the WW2 bolt actions, I'd grab the MAS before anything else. Five rounds of a great cartridge, brutally simple, good battle sights, accurate enough, compact, and the bolt can be worked very quickly.
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Post by can on Mar 27, 2019 12:52:33 GMT -5
Very true. I'm actually thinking about taking one of the 36's and giving it to my Smith( He is excellent, he built me a model 70 in 6.5 Creedmore that is like a laser ) and have him build me a F1 sniper.To find an original is more than impossible and I'm too old to live long enough to see that through to fruition.
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Post by lew on Mar 29, 2019 13:44:29 GMT -5
Talk about ambitious. An FRF1 would be a hell of a project. Maybe if you can find a decent action in a beat-to-crap rifle... Just spittballin': FRF1 in 6.5 CM. My 6.5 Creedmoor large-frame AR shoots .6-.7" groups, which is more than enough for me. I'd be interested to see what the Mle. 36 action is really capable of. |
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Post by can on Mar 29, 2019 14:03:37 GMT -5
Yeah finding real FRF1 or F2 parts might be harder then finding Jimmy Hoffa.And not having a check book that might impress Henri Canaple , it's probably going to be the 36 action with a good barrel,and a similar pistol grip stock.The scope will be more then impossible so that is definitely going to be something else in 6x. My Smith is partial to Krieger barrels so it will probably be one of those. We'll see I'm all set up for 6.5 CM that would be a good choice. I've been researching French sport shooting sights but it doesn't appear anyone in their Tir aux Armes Règlementaires competition's is using one. By the way the French have some impressive privately owned firearms. I didn't think they did. The firing lines in their videos look every bit as well equipped as we have here in the US. With more diversity too. Here in a service rifle match it's hard to tell one AR from the next,maybe an M1-A once in a while. They certainly have more options than the Brit's. fftir.org/fr/accueil |
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Post by can on Mar 30, 2019 9:25:06 GMT -5
The more I think about it unless by some miracle I do find an FR action and end up with the 36 action I'll probably have him chamber it for 7,5x54. At that point it will be a modified MAS 36 and I already load 7,5 so might as well really se what the 36 can do.
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Post by lew on Apr 1, 2019 14:25:14 GMT -5
I may or may not know a guy who may or may not know where Hoffa lays buried.    French shooters are fairly well-apportioned, at least as far as non-US shooters go. Granted, all their civilian ARs are in .222 Remington, rather than .223/5.56, but that's a minor point. They're leagues ahead of the Brits. The Mle. 36 lends itself to easy furniture modifications- in your case, likely fabricating a new stock assembly would be relatively easy. Good luck if you decide to embark on this project. |
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Post by rullow on Apr 4, 2019 2:54:30 GMT -5
for the available parts for FRF1 - check naturabuy.fr - there issome wood, optics and bipods available....
I am thinking of it as my other airsoft project.....
I d rather go for MAS49 with optics than for rebuilt MAS into FRF since the magic og original FRF is in the little tweeks made to make it better than MAS36 - special shape of the bolt made to squeez the cartridge exactly same every time.... as well as positioning of flashider compared to the barell grooves....
so - for FRFiI ll stick with airsoft idea for the photos and rather search for a good set of long MAS49 with optics, which is in my point of view more effective....
I have to say the with my MAS36 with original sights - I am hitting better than a mauser98 (short or long - doesnt matter), its perfectly simple, handy, short, compact, baoy integrated - perfect bolt action rifle....
I d love to shoot one day a MAS38 SMG - that thing is sweet, small absolutely compact, easy to operate and well manufactured. Would love to feel the effect of the angled action in fullauto....
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Post by can on Apr 4, 2019 8:11:40 GMT -5
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Post by rullow on May 22, 2019 2:27:50 GMT -5
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Post by lew on May 22, 2019 15:48:41 GMT -5
That's outstanding. Good work, copain.
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Post by rullow on Jun 29, 2020 1:02:51 GMT -5
youtu.be/SJJbbtuLNJQhi a little video about the airsoft one your posts reminded to take my real one to the range.... didnt shoot it for a while yet....
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Post by lew on Jun 29, 2020 11:12:19 GMT -5
Very nice, camarade. Very nice. How do you like shooting the real thing?
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Post by rullow on Jun 30, 2020 1:41:08 GMT -5
much better than k98, I do even hit things however its still full power cartridge so my shoulder does feel it after a while.... special fun is to shoot blanks - I have overcharged brass blanks and thats like firing a cannon giant flame burst and big bang not like those plastic blanks |
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Post by lew on Jun 30, 2020 11:30:06 GMT -5
I hate shooting Mausers, specifically because of the crap sights. The peep sight on the MAS is fantastic. The 36/51 is even more pleasant to shoot, and, speaking of blanks, I need to get some so I can launch dummy grenades. I've actually found the really short stock of the MAS series to be helpful: it forces me to bring my shoulder forward a little more and thus makes a better "pocket" for the stock to it in. |
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